Hi Lynda, was not mad or offended in the least at your comment with regard to the Papers.I should have dropped the word 'counter' in my response,now that I look back at the thread.I have been in possession of the Papers since 1984,and I am in total agreement with your comments below on the individual and beliefs.As to how I was when I was an Agent,definitely not proud of that exhibition I put on at that time,only the present will tell if I have grown in wisdom.

I also will offer an apology to Mike,as my comment on the 33rd degree was not needed,although what I stated is my belief.The actual source I think he might want to look for is William Morgan's book,I read it some years back and he might find his answer there.Night

: I've been known to do that on occasion myself.

: This is a nice friendly debate that our member Mike began.
: When I put forth my responses it was under the 'imho'
: banner so people would know that it was my opinion, nothing
: more.

: D, some years ago when you were here, you came across as a
: serious Christian and you made no bones about it. That is
: why I was surprised to hear you endorsed the Urantia

: papers. It was not an attack on your beliefs or the papers.
: It was surprise.

: Do I think historians tell the truth? Of course not! That goes
: along with my response of 'History is written by the
: victors,' or who is funding the latest archeological dig. I
: have Michael Cremo's ancient Archeology book that shows
: things embedded in rock from MILLIONS of years ago. These
: are well documented and researched.

: The reality is that we (here in CGI) don't really 'know' one
: another that well. We don't know what we've researched or
: for how long. We don't know how many books have been read
: or documentaries watched. How much schooling we've all had.
: We don't know if any of us are Christians, Jews, Hindi,
: Buddhist, Islamic or Gnostic. While none of that matters to
: converse or discuss as rational adults, it's something to
: keep in mind as we judge and compartmentalize others.

: Every man/woman has their own journeys to make. IMHO, none is
: more righteous or truthful than the others. It is what it
: is, a journey to teach our souls truths... My truths won't
: be yours, or Sonars, or Morgans, or Cathy's, or Griffons,
: or Mikes.

: I'm a Libra.. A couple things we're good at is looking at a
: subject from all sides before making a decision and being a
: mirror/reflection for other people...

: Hoping you were not offended as no offense was meant..

: Lynda

: Think about this,do you believe they are telling us the Truth