Hi Sonar.

"Even in the mother's womb, and especially when a helpless infant, as it seems, is given birth in the world, the forces of Light in the Universe rejoice."

This ought to be the way it works regardless if one is religious, atheist or whatever.

Sadly, the powers that still be have a different idea.

An excellent description of what actually happens, in terms of the effects of external stimuli, is perfectly summed in the christian parable of the man who found a pearl of great value.

He found a pearl of great value and he sold everything and bought it.

The lifetime of the average individual is cleverly explained in one sentence.

This world is the oyster, but not yours or mine. The oyster is the sea with its maritime, corporate structure and values.

A just conceived unique individual with profound potential for things good and constructive, is an irritation to this oyster.

From the first instant of individual life the oyster begins to apply impressions which accrue as layers of pearl to an irritating grain of sand. For nine defenseless months the individual is increasingly encased in formative layers. Then the trauma of birth, childhood, school and the rest of life. The encrustation never stops until the individual sees that potential "I" at the core of the false self the oyster has created. At that point the individual can begin selling the unimportant layers of false self in effort to achieve ownership of true self at the core. Or not. It's a choice.

The problem is compounded when parent pearls give birth to child pearls and raises them in unwitting cooperation with the oyster. A pearl cannot raise a unique individual. It cannot realize a unique individual. A pearl can only raise a pearl.

And so, "Debates arise where Truth is hidden from sight ----- "

There are numerous ways of controlling individuals and populations of pearls. The ways are not important. The "why" of why they work is the key issue. Conditioning, pure an simple. We are conditioned to look out from ourselves for truth. The door of truth opens into ourselves.

Contemporary Christianity is a net cast to recapture those who protested the religion of the Jews, and other belief systems. Islam is another net for protestants. Then the Protestant Reformation. All of these nets and more are woven by the Catholic Church under the Holy See (Sea) in which lives the oyster. These nets, as well as science, government, philosophy, medicine, electronics, TV, propaganda, hypnosis, etc. all work because we look out for information (internal formation). Kind of a paradox.

How about spy vs. spy as the core being vs. the pearl shell and one of them has to go?

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: Hello Mike,

: you wrote: I doubt that seeing young children watching
: cartoons is in my future, but I've never been able to
: understand the extreme TV obsession in the lives of so
: many. Then again, I seem to be one of those fortunate
: people who is hard to hypnotize. I think that the "spy
: vs. spy" syndrome has also locked a lot of people into
: never talking about anything real, other than the weather,
: sort of. They've really exploited the weather!

: Bob posted the "antidote" for the horror you
: describe in his most recent excerpt from Anastasia/Ringing
: Cedars book. I've reposted a section below.

: Sonar

: (This actual scene of 'events' is taking place in a 'glade'
: within a remote region of the 'taiga' (forested region) of
: Siberia, NE of Moscow, in 1995.)

: My son, my little Vladimir, (only 4-5 months old), finally
: fell asleep. After his feeding he played for a while with
: something in the grass. He felt a cedar cone which had
: fallen to the ground and tried to lap it.

: He looked up at the clouds floating by in the sky. He listened
: to the birds sing, then climbed up a little hill, where the
: grass was thicker, curled up, closed his eyes, smiled at
: something, and fell asleep.

: Anastasia ran off to take care of some sort of tasks of her
: own. I set out for a walk in the forest alone, immersing
: myself in thought to the exclusion of everything around me.

: At the same time I couldn't get rid of the alternating
: feelings of joy and disappointment.

: I sat down under a cedar tree at the edge of the lake and
: decided to just sit there without moving until I thought of
: some way that I as a parent could contribute to my child's
: upbringing.

: (This is the father's first contact with his child.)

: I had to think of something to make him feel his father was
: the most important thing in his life.

: When Anastasia approached, I didn't feel like talking with her
: at first. It was her laughter, in fact, that had distracted
: my son from me.

: Anastasia sat quietly by my side, her hands clutching her
: knees, thoughtfully contemplating the calm waters of the
: lake.

: She was the first to speak.

: "Please do not be offended at me. Your communication
: struck me as so fanny I could not restrain myself."

: "That's not what I'm bothered about."

: "What is it then?"

: "Many readers' letters ask about how to bring up
: children, they want me to ask you everything about your
: system of raising children and to describe it in my next
: book.

: But what is there here to describe? There is no system — quite
: the opposite.

: What you have here is some kind of anti-system. For example,
: what should fathers do under such circumstances? — a reader
: might ask."

: "You used a most appropriate word — 'anti-system' — you
: can describe that."

: "But who would be interested in that?

: People are looking for practical guides where it tells them
: what they should do with their baby when he's say, one
: month old, and then when he's two months old, and so on.

: An hourly schedule. Books that offer a dietary programme.

: A complete timetable for bringing up the child according to
: his age. But here you have only a complete indulgence of
: the child's whims. An all-permissive attitude."

: "Tell me, Vladimir, what do you want our son to be like
: when he grows up?"

: "What do you mean, what do I want him to be like? Of
: course I want him to be a happy, normal and successful
: individual."

: 'And are there many happy people amongst your
: acquaintances?"

: "Happy? Well, if you're talking about completely happy
: people, I'd have to say: probably not very many Everybody's
: got something not quite right with their lives.

: Either there's not enough money, or they're plagued by illness
: or family squabbles.

: But I want my son to avoid any kind of unpleasant
: experiences."

: "Then think about it: how can he avoid them if you
: deliberately squeeze him into the system everyone is
: brought up in?

: And think: might there not be a certain pattern in the fact
: that all parents want to see their children happy, and yet
: they grow up and turn out just like everyone else — not
: very happy?"

: 'A pattern?" I queried. "What kind of pattern? If
: you know, tell me yourself."

: "Let us ponder this question together."

: "This is something people have been thinking about for
: ages, Anastasia. All kinds of scholars and specialists are
: pondering it.

: For this they have invented all sorts of systems of
: child-rearing, worked out schedules, trying to find the
: most efficient system."

: "Take a more careful look around you, Vladimir. See the
: trees, grasses and flowers growing. How could one possibly
: draw up an advance schedule of the days and hours when they
: should be watered?

: You would not go watering flowers when they were being washed
: with water from heaven simply because someone worked out a
: detailed schedule for watering them."

: "Now you're going too far. That's just nonsense — that's
: not an example for raising children. It's not something
: that can happen in life."

: "But you know, Vladimir, this is exactly what does happen
: in life. No matter what the system. It is still only a
: system.

: ----- It is always calculated to wean the heart and soul away
: from Man when he is still small and to subject him to the
: system.

: So that he grows up like everyone else, in a way that will fit
: the system. And so it goes on for ages on end, so as to
: prevent the human soul from experiencing clarity of vision.

: To prevent Man from discovering himself in his beauty as a
: whole, with a God-given soul.

: Yes, Man! The ruler of all the Universe."

: "Hold on a moment, don't get carried away beyond my
: reach, speak calmly using everyday speech. What do parents
: need to do to make it so? So that children will grow up, as
: you say, with a soul that is free?

: To be rulers of the Universe, and happy? As God Himself has
: wished?"

: "They must not interfere, they need to see their children
: clearly in their own thinking the way God Himself has
: wished.

: It is the aspiration of all the forces of Light in the
: Universe that each newborn child be endowed with the very
: best of creation.

: It is the parents' duty not to hide the creative Light under
: the erudition of invented dogmas.

: For ages upon the Earth debates have arisen as to which system
: might be the wisest. But think about it yourself, Vladimir.

: ---- Debates arise where Truth is hidden from sight -----

: Fruitless debates can go on forevermore as to what might be
: found behind the closed door.

: But one has only to open the door and it will be clear to all,
: and there will be nothing to debate, since everyone will be
: able to see the Truth for himself."

: 'But in the final analysis, who will open this door?"

: 'It is already open. All that remains is for the eyes of the
: soul to be opened to see and gain awareness."

: "Gain awareness of what?"

: "You were asking me about systems. You were mentioning
: the schedules and everyday regimes and how someone sets
: them forth for people in books.

: But think about it: who can tell more clearly about creation
: than the Creator Himself?"

: "But the Creator doesn't tell anything. Up to now He has
: said hardly a word. Nobody hears His words."

: "Words thought up by Man have many meanings. The Creator
: patiently and lovingly speaks with each one of us through
: splendid, imperishable acts.

: The rising of the Sun and the silvery sheen of the Moon, the
: soft mist and tender dew, playing with the Sun's ray and
: drinking in the heavenly blue.

: The Universe is filled with so many clear examples like that.

: Just look around you. They touch you and everyone else
: too."

: Again, if everything Anastasia said about child-rearing were
: to be laid out, the result would probably be the complete
: opposite of how we handle this matter today

: I have already said that Anastasia, along with all her
: fore-bears through the ages, treats a newborn as a deity or
: an immaculate angel. They consider it totally unacceptable
: to interfere with the child's thought process.

: Anastasia's grandfather and great-grandfather were able to
: observe for long periods at a time how their little
: grand-daughter would be fascinated by a bug or a flower, or
: the contemplation of something.

: They tried their best not to distract her with their presence.

: They would converse with her only when she herself paid
: attention to them and showed a desire to communicate.

: Anastasia maintained that at the very moment I was observing
: little Vladimir contemplating something in the grass, he
: was becoming aware not only of the bugs but of all
: creation.

: According to her, a bug is a more perfect mechanism than any
: manufactured product, let alone a primitive construction
: set.

: A child provided with the opportunity to communicate with
: these perfect beings will himself become more perfect than
: through communication with primitive lifeless objects.

: Besides, as she maintains, every blade of grass, every bug, is
: interrelated with the whole of creation and subsequently
: aids the child in becoming aware of the essence of the
: Universe and of himself as part of it, to become aware of
: his innate purpose.

: Artificially created objects have no such connection and do
: not arrange priorities and values in the child's brain in
: the right way.

: To my observation that the conditions in which she — and now
: our son — were being brought up were totally different from
: those in which children of our civilised world are to be
: raised, she responded as follows: "Even in the
: mother's womb, and especially when a helpless infant, as it
: seems, is given birth in the world, the forces of Light in
: the Universe rejoice.

: They rejoice in the trembling hope that the newly arrived
: immaculate Godlike Man will become their kind ruler and
: intensify the Light of Love from the Earth.

: "Everything has already been provided for him by the
: Creator. Through a bug, a tree, a blade of grass, a
: seemingly ferocious beast, the Universe is prepared to be a
: good nurse for him.

: Even in a Man outwardly small we see the great work of the
: Creator of all.